We would rather keep it English. Sorry about that. We’re just asking if you’re okay.
Unfortunately it isn’t “overdramatic”, a lot of the time people will say vague things. Whilst I am no expert, I am fully aware that this “simple” statement could trigger someone.
It is obviously okay to talk about death but saying “Sometimes the best part of an individuals life” can be triggering for other people. Yes we are all going to die, I didn’t say that I can’t accept it, so I’m not sure how you made that assumption.
There are such small things that can trigger other people. I am simply asking this person to re-word their statement so that it doesn’t. I’m sorry if you think I’m wrong but I have found a lot of sensitive people.
Hi, there it's a known fact that no one knows what happens after death. Death might not be bad or scary for some people, but this is a dangerous statement to make (although it's your opinion) if I heard someone say this I would think that they might be suicidal. We're allowed to talk about Death in questions. But a statement like this can say to other people "it's okay to die". Maybe think about re-wording it to say that it's okay to die but not before you're time? You can definitely open up a question and answer about this.
Hi there, I'm late on this, I apologise for that. What kind of help would you like/do you need? If you would like/need any help with any of the topics discussed in the show, you can click on the link: 13reasonswhy.info once you are there, choose your country. Resources are available to you.
I hope you will be okay and that you find the help you need. Best of luck on getting better!
Hannah herself tells him through the tapes that he isn't responsible and that she only put him on them because he was a part of her story.
If you need any help please head over to 13reasonswhy.info and then choose your country. Resources such as websites to visit and numbers to call will be available to you.
I hope you'll be okay, you find the help you need and that you get better, best of luck!
In all honesty there are people that could have helped her but she wasn’t able to reach out to them. You can judge so easily watching her onscreen and you can say all of the things she could have done. But would you, in the situation feeling all that you’re feeling without a clear head, be able to reach out and say something? Hannah Baker is a human being and we have no idea what was in her head when it was happening. Hannah says in her own words that she feels these people are responsible for her death. She didn’t kill herself for no reason, you may not think they are responsible but for her they were because they heavily contributed to her taking her own life. So many things can push you over the edge. In Clay’s tape she says that this one is all on her. It wasn’t his fault but he is a part of her story. I do believe that she could have written a letter to Tony telling Clay all that she told Clay instead of making Clay believe her death was his fault. For me what she did with Clay is messed up, especially with him grieving for her. He constantly questions what he did and how he could have helped only to be told he didn’t do anything wrong and then still believing it was his fault. Clay seems to be the only one on her list that didn’t do anything wrong, in her words. I don’t think we should be blaming Hannah after all she went through.
I honesty found that scene confusing, not story or writing wise but the actions of the character. But I sort of understand. She burnt the Polaroid’s because she didn’t want these stories out there she didn’t want The Clubhouse to be a thing and she wanted to erase all evidence of it ever being a thing, of all these girls being hurt, including her. However she doesn’t understand that it isn’t her decision, she destroyed evidence and she made a permanent decision that has an effect on the case. She did it for a number of reasons but in doing she is also helping them (Bryce and Monty). Because this is something I feel like Montgomery would do. It’s a “these will never be seen again” painful thing. It’s like burning a memory but then also deciding for more than just herself. It is an incredibly selfish decision that is acted on through emotion and PTSD. In that moment she destroys crucial evidence, but I think she also knows who Bryce is, he is incredibly powerful and so is his father. I think she understands or thinks that from past evidence and reality that things won’t work out. However with Chlöe, there is visual evidence that she didn’t consent or know about Bryce having sex with her.
Sorry this is a bit of a mess.
THIS REPLY CONTAINS A GRAPHIC DESCRIPTION OF TYLERS RAPE DURING THE BATHROOM SCENE
It is an incredibly traumatic scene and I would not suggest anyone watch it without another trusted and informed adult present. Please phone your local crisis number or visit rapecrisis.org.uk (England and Wales for the United Kingdom) or rainn.org (United States) if you are affected or have been through anything similar to what Tyler went through.
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Tyler is sodomised and beaten in the boys restroom/bathroom by Montgomery, who is surrounded by his friends. This is after Tyler comes back from a programme and is seemingly feeling a lot better. During the scene Montgomery smashes his face into the sink and does it again on another sink, very hard, he is visibly bruised but barely bleeding. Montgomery then tries to drown Tyler in toilet water forcing his head under. He grabs a broomstick and brutally forces it inside Tyler’s rectum. Monty and his friends leave and Tyler is left crying.
➡️ No one murdered Hannah, she killed herself because of the pain.
➡️ She killed herself because suicide IS currently (and unfortunately) an option. People HAVE choices. Sometimes the pain is too much. Hannah is a teenager she has a lot going on in her mind. From her perspective her worth and mental state was deteriorating.
➡️ You cannot expect everyone to be strong. Hannah was scared and didn’t give enough information. Mr. Porter didn’t have the tools to deal with her specific situation, not only did he not have information but he wasn’t able to help her in any way unless she spoke his name which for some survivors is TERRIFYING. Like Mr. Porter said the schools system needs to change. Everyone’s trauma is different. Everyone experiences things differently especially with teenagers. She was still growing and learning. She couldn’t say his name and couldn’t recall details that would be going through it again and again, not everyone is strong enough to do that.
If you haven’t yet watched the first season of beyond the reasons, please do, the doctors explain a lot.
I know this is old, but, there are facts in my opinion that more people need to understand, try to change perspective, you haven’t seen it all, but neither have I.
The toughest scene for me to watch was the scene where Chlöe and Bryce are watching TV, Bryce wants to have sex, but she's not that into it, because I was not ready for another rape scene.
Also Tyler, but I didn't watch his scene, as soon as they came in the bathroom door, I knew something bad was going to happen and then I read comments about him being raped.